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> 2014 Subaru WRX Concept, Discussion Topic
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post Mar 29 2013, 07:19 PM
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Yes, I understand that Toyota and Subaru are working together.
(IMG:http://www.themotorreport.com.au/content/image/2/0/2014_subaru_wrx_concept_02-0327.jpg)
(IMG:http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WRX-Concept-03.jpg)
(IMG:http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2013-subaru-wrx-concept_100422998_m.jpg)
(IMG:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/32473956.jpg)
Again, I know Subaru and Toyota are working together, yet, this has way to many visual features of a newer Lexus.
(IMG:http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/01/2014-lexus-is-detroit.jpg)
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Subaru, look at yourself.
We went from this:
(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/1997-2000_Subaru_Impreza_RX_sedan_(2011-08-17)_01.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.apex-pac.com/mycar/subaru/img/subaru_wrx.jpg)
to this:
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Subaru, as well as other car manufacturers need to return to their roots while they are designing the next generation model for a car. We've seen the big three in the US (Ford, Chrysler, Chevrolet) attempt this as well as some European car manufacturers (the first that comes to mind are BMW and Aston Martin). Both the US and Europe received mixed opinions in the end. Yet, unlike the new designs of Japanese cars, Europe and the US still left visual features of their roots. This is the main point I'm trying to reveal. That if a car manufacturer is going to continue a line of sports cars. Then they need to keep the features that made that line of cars famous. Specifically, the visual features of newer generations in this case. This is why I had to point that out using the new generation WRX as an example of what is happening to the visual designs of sports cars in these times.

I believe Subaru needs to slow down and rethink this. Mostly with the visual aspects of newer generations. Because this new generation looks more like it was built more for highway travel, rather than off road performance. I would be afraid of the front bumper ripping off and the whole car bottoming out if I were to drive this off road.
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post Mar 29 2013, 07:36 PM
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new cars are just stupid.
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:02 PM
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too bad they didnt fit a massive rear spoiler on the trunk.
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:14 PM
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If you like the first gen impreza, buy the first gen impreza. The company isn't going to release the same car over and over again.

They need to advance forward, not go back to the 90's
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:22 PM
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we are thinking of cars like if we still live in 1995
dont be so naiive about all the new cars are ugly comments
people are gay
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:22 PM
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (Vicent M. @ Mar 29 2013, 04:36 PM) *
new cars are just stupid.

I couldn't agree more.
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:24 PM
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Yeah this article is pointless. No single company is going to target the small group wanting something specific, it's not worth their time or their money. Subaru and Toyota working together on the 86/BRZ clearly worked out well for them and is tempting them to work together again.

All cars are going futuristic, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:51 PM
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I don't mind the design, as long as it still has a flat four and all wheel drive.
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post Mar 29 2013, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (Faяaп. @ Mar 29 2013, 04:14 PM) *
If you like the first gen impreza, buy the first gen impreza. The company isn't going to release the same car over and over again.

They need to advance forward, not go back to the 90's



QUOTE (Sir Marko Polo @ Mar 29 2013, 04:24 PM) *
Yeah this article is pointless. No single company is going to target the small group wanting something specific, it's not worth their time or their money. Subaru and Toyota working together on the 86/BRZ clearly worked out well for them and is tempting them to work together again.

All cars are going futuristic, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

You are both pointing out a different topic that is completely irrelevant to this issue. We've been through that discussion before. We know that car manufacturers are not going to make a complete replica just for car enthusiast. That is clearly obvious. So no, I'm not asking Subaru to make replicas of previous generations. If I want a first gen. I'll go out and look for one.

So you two are not getting the point. You're starting to stray off the topic. The point I am trying to get across is that car manufacturers shouldn't forget their roots and completely redesign something to the point you can't tell that it is a WRX (for example) without having to look at the emblem. Or under the hood.
The first thing that came to my mind when I seen a picture of this concept from a distance was that it was a new Lexus. Until I seen the emblem. The point I'm trying to put light on is that Subaru in this case (as well as other Auto manufactures) should leave signature features that make it stand out and respectfully represent the many generations before it (Not just an emblem or similar drivetrain or a specific paint color). This concept doesn't look like it was built with the prestige of those before it. A complete visual redesigned version of the vehicle can make it hard for the average non gear head to understand the true definition of an WRX.

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Yea that's true for a Lamborghini or something... The impreza has nothing significantly symbolic/iconic on it.

This concept has similar front end to the first gen impreza.

They will probably add the spoiler.. Though that's all it has

It even has the hood scoop! Which is now more like a vent because they have a better hood shape.
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post Mar 29 2013, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (Faяaп. @ Mar 29 2013, 05:17 PM) *
Yea that's true for a Lamborghini or something... The impreza has nothing significantly symbolic/iconic on it.

This concept has similar front end to the first gen impreza.

Mechanically, I can agree (which is usually good enough for gear heads), yet visually, no. It's too big of a jump in the design, I cant spot out or find WRX in this without having to look at the emblem or technical specifications.

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post Mar 29 2013, 09:29 PM
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Well this is just a concept so the production version probably isn't going to look like that, it'll just have some design ideas from the concept.
I guess the production version WRX is going to be based off this and that one doesn't really look like a Lexus.

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post Mar 29 2013, 09:40 PM
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Yep, considering it's a concept, that's what I'm hoping for.

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post Mar 29 2013, 10:47 PM
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But the two topics are ABSOLUTELY related. Perhaps not too directly, I can see what you're trying to say, but at the same time, the "iconic" and "roots" you are referring to from the previous generations looked great back in the 90's, but they wouldn't fit today. That's where the whole companies are looking to the future came form.
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post Mar 29 2013, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (Nick47 @ Mar 29 2013, 10:29 PM) *
Well this is just a concept so the production version probably isn't going to look like that, it'll just have some design ideas from the concept.
I guess the production version WRX is going to be based off this and that one doesn't really look like a Lexus.


They said the WRX is going to be their own line of cars, they won't be based off Imprezas anymore

Also I agree with Faran. The WRX' have nothing iconic beside the blue color and golden wheels.. BMW has the kidney-shaped grilles, Cadillac has the sharp corners, Corvettes have the rear window shape.. But what does a WRX have? What makes a WRX stand out?

I am currently car shopping, and I was considering an older WRX, but seriously look at the pictures. It's a granny car with a giant wing and hood scoop.. Nothing special or iconic about that.

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post Mar 29 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Sir Marko Polo @ Mar 29 2013, 06:47 PM) *
But the two topics are ABSOLUTELY related. Perhaps not too directly, I can see what you're trying to say, but at the same time, the "iconic" and "roots" you are referring to from the previous generations looked great back in the 90's, but they wouldn't fit today. That's where the whole companies are looking to the future came form.

It seems like Hollywood stepped in on the designs of cars now a days. Cars don't really look like, well, cars. They look fake. Just misshaped blobs, that need 'special' tools and software to be worked on. I'm worried sometimes that there will be a complete rejection with all in the past in the world of automobiles. Or as my Economy professor pointed out in a lecture that "The day of the shade tree mechanics are gone". Cars are more like fancy looking bic lighters. When one small thing goes wrong, you trash and scrap the whole thing. This is another thing I mean about prestige, iconic and roots. The newer cars seem more like insults to what they are supposed to represent. In other words, we are letting the fashion and tech get to far ahead of us. Yes, they are cool, and can perform well. As I have seen with the GT86/BRZ for example. Which I was against in the beginning. Now I like it.

Hopefully this new gen. WRX will turn out to look and perform well. Not become a plush highway cruiser built for MPG that can barely handle a gravel road.
Has there been any stats on this new generation yet?
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post Mar 30 2013, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE (Swift @ Mar 29 2013, 07:32 PM) *
It seems like Hollywood stepped in on the designs of cars now a days. Cars don't really look like, well, cars. They look fake. Just misshaped blobs, that need 'special' tools and software to be worked on. I'm worried sometimes that there will be a complete rejection with all in the past in the world of automobiles. Or as my Economy professor pointed out in a lecture that "The day of the shade tree mechanics are gone". Cars are more like fancy looking bic lighters. When one small thing goes wrong, you trash and scrap the whole thing. This is another thing I mean about prestige, iconic and roots. The newer cars seem more like insults to what they are supposed to represent. In other words, we are letting the fashion and tech get to far ahead of us. Yes, they are cool, and can perform well. As I have seen with the GT86/BRZ for example. Which I was against in the beginning. Now I like it.

Hopefully this new gen. WRX will turn out to look and perform well. Not become a plush highway cruiser built for MPG that can barely handle a gravel road.
Has there been any stats on this new generation yet?


You're going into opinions now. I for one don't think the majority of new cars look bad. I think a lot of them look great.

As for the new technologies and stuff... you can't argue against that. Technology will always be improving.
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you guys got it worng
the only bad thing is that it will be pigfat, like the brz or the r35 just like every new car

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