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[Andrew.]

and there are honda engines called K24A

top lel

[Sir Cub]

lol tep

[Brandon]

seen so many sr20's blow for no good reason

throw something cheap in there duder. f**kin 5.3L vortec

wont even need to mod the engine really

This post has been edited by Brand0n: Aug 31 2013, 06:56 AM

[nhra1625]

im throwing my moms 6.0l ls2 in a shell when she gets a new truck. her truck has no value cuz of the 2 accidents she was in even though its fixed.

[Andrew.]

6.0l ls2

(IMG:http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5957/lcoy.jpg)
yes

[nhra1625]

Hey, it's a free motor. I'm not gonna complain that it's not the rb25 that I'd prefer.

[Andrew.]

ls engine > rb25

This post has been edited by Big Daddy Andy: Sep 2 2013, 05:54 PM

[Oggy]

I'm not even a fan of LS swaps and I'd agree with that ^^^.

This post has been edited by Oggy: Sep 2 2013, 06:42 PM

[Kevin]

aye don't listen to andrew
LS may be a god tuning platform but not for low budget
You can find them in nearly in infiniti Q series from the 90s
they're made by nissan
they sound sexy
they have moderate to very good performance

this is a good motor for a low budget build... and daily drives perfectly
If ever got an onevia or coupe I'd swap the front end and make it a silvia or slieighty
then throw in a supercharged VH35 and go hoon

and the motor isn't so exclusive that if something breaks you're out a lot of money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCaBjEgqSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCaBjEgqSg

andrew likes bloated yellow cow rx7s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/toung.gif)

This post has been edited by _Kevin_: Sep 2 2013, 07:09 PM

[Oggy]

I just don't like the RB because of the heavy iron block, and I6's in general aren't super great for weight distribution compared to V6's or even V8's because they are so long. Which is why I agree with Andrew.

Anyway the LS2 swap is gonna to be sick as hell. Not what I'd do, but it sounds mean as hell, makes crazy power, and the torque (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) . My dream swap is to use an SR20 DET bottom end with a SR20VE head from a P12 Primera. I view it sort of like a 20V swap into an AE86. Its the most advanced version of the same engine, so you get the technology without compromising the character of the car. IMO. Only a dream at this point though since the P12 SR20 is still like three grand.

[Andrew.]

aye don't listen to andrew
LS may be a god tuning platform but not for low budget
You can find them in nearly in infiniti Q series from the 90s
they're made by nissan
they sound sexy
they have moderate to very good performance

this is a good motor for a low budget build... and daily drives perfectly
If ever got an onevia or coupe I'd swap the front end and make it a silvia or slieighty
then throw in a supercharged VH35 and go hoon

and the motor isn't so exclusive that if something breaks you're out a lot of money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCaBjEgqSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCaBjEgqSg

andrew likes bloated yellow cow rx7s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/toung.gif)

its a big top heavy DOHC type of engine


for the money you will spend swapping and adding bolt on to make power you can buy an ls

[J.red]

The problem with a lot of LS swaps is that it often throws off the entire weight balance of the car. Power isn't the only thing that makes a car go fast, and displacement isn't the only thing that makes power. Many of the japanese cars are known for being relatively quick and nimble. An LS swap takes that away from the cars. And without a bunch more money on top of the swap and extensive chassis and suspension work, that's something you won't get back. Yes, I won't deny that you'll ultimately get more power out of the LS swapped car and maybe go faster in a straight line, but I'd much rather see a car with a mild, light 4 banger that can run the twisties like it's nobodies business, you'll have a lot more fun driving that on curvy roads than you will sitting and revving your V8 just to make that sound.

[Andrew.]

most 80's and 90's wapanese 4 cylinders are cast iron while the ls is aluminium,

a 3 rotor rx7 weights more than a ls1 rx7, same with RB silvias, since RB are cast iron, people have swapped ls in miats and they still corner good

I think the ls weights as much as an h22


I f**king love that engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

This post has been edited by Big Daddy Andy: Sep 3 2013, 04:57 AM

[nhra1625]

I just like the sound. I'll deal with the other boring stuff later lmao

[J.red]

LS motor, trans and clutch weigh in at around 525-600 lbs. The H22, which is honda's heaviest 4 cylinder, weights in at 390 lbs. for motor, trans and clutch. B series and K series are arounf 350 lbs. And that weight for the LS doesn't include the added subframe work to support the motor and trans as well as the added weight of the rear diff and axel.

SR20DET has been weighed around 450-500 lbs.

[Andrew.]

ls are not 600 lbs

they are like 450 lbs and it depens on what transmission you use
http://www.chevroletperformance.com/_res/p...gineQRC2010.pdf
check the second tab

h22 is 480 lbs
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/13...etrain_weights/

This post has been edited by Big Daddy Andy: Sep 3 2013, 05:17 PM

[Brandon]

im throwing my moms 6.0l ls2 in a shell when she gets a new truck. her truck has no value cuz of the 2 accidents she was in even though its fixed.

YES.

The problem with a lot of LS swaps is that it often throws off the entire weight balance of the car.

Yes, this is my point of view as well. Plus, I'm lame and like the idea of building the engine a car came with, but all these rx7 duders with v8's throw off that factory 50/50 balance, then what's the point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[J.red]

That chart for GM engines is dry long block only. That does not include clutch, flywheel or trans. Once you factor those in, it is easily 550-600 lbs. And like I said, that weight for the LS engine doesn't even include driveshaft, rear end, axels, and additional chassis work.

And I have a friend that runs a shop and he just weighed a complete dry H22A and B18C this past week. The H22 came out to 380 lbs dry. The B18 cam out to 350 lbs dry. And I know other people that have produced similar numbers for these engines as well. The honda tuning article also includes the hear and axels. So if you want to include BOTH headers and the entire driveline of the LS engine, then that's a fair comparison. Not just to the dry long block.

[DriftMilitia]

Thread has been sitting for so long. So, I acquire the ability to be able to throw this car together and apart like lego blocks. huh. Anyways, going to go mark down the wiring. Going track dedicated missile. Interior is fully stripped, no seat belt anything. might put the dash back in. As for the suspension, going cheap and rolling with like full isis minus some things. Going with a S13 SR blacktop. Going to get rocker stoppers so the hydraulic lifters don't f**k everything up and cause camshaft flutter. Welded diff, too. Going to be trailer'ed, nothing going to be street legal about it. Probably going to zip tie a FD brake light to the trunk (led bar). Either tape up or weld metal on the tail light opening so nothing can f**k with it. Probably going to simply tape it. Going to like take the halogen bulb out of the pop up head lights and replace it with like some xenon 8000k bulb or whatever the f**k those are. not going to hook up the motor to the pop up lights, they're always going to be either sleepy or open.

This post has been edited by DriftMilitia: Sep 6 2013, 02:40 AM

[Noodles]

make it as low possible

please

i must see sparks when sideways