My toy. 1962 Gaz M21 Volga. Was bought few weeks for 1000 Euro, pretty nice condition. Engine works, but oil change wasn't done for 5 last years, so i dont want to start it. Now it waits for registartion and garage. Engine - 2.5 L petrol, 3 speed manual gearbox, approx weight - 1580 kg. 0-100 km/h (0-60 mph) - approx 30 sec, max speed 130 km/h.
Comparable american car - 1952 Ford Mainline
And yes, it have more rust than Duncan's bus
first reaction: 100%jelly
now that thats been said, i can read what you wrote and look at the pics
totally cool, man. it seems to be getting hard to find 2nd gens around here. (and yeah, i suppose the year is older than '62). good luck!
wow pretty cool
with a good restoration, that would look great
is it gonna be customized later?
This is really cool man congrats!
First reaction:
Background information:
This Volga has a Porsche Cayenne chasis + drivetrain + engine
Restomod it! Sounds like a great proyect
@N.OzolS, thanks dude, as you said, it's difficult to find 2 gen even here, in Russia. 1962 (first half) was last year of 2 gen production, chassis №19xxxx
thanks, at first i was thinking about 4.5L v8 engine swap
but decided to keep it original, but make it bit lower with some classic accessories.
please for the love of god lower it
^MadSet us right..
-Bag it
-Chop It
-White Walls
-V8 swap
and damn s**t will look boss
Slight reverse rake
Get new lights
Redo the bad interior parts (looking original)
Restore some of the chrome bits
Keep the military-esque paint scheme and rust
Get tidy rims
nice communist itasha
is stallin ur waifu?
^ ahahahhahahaha
yes, slight reverse rake would be cool
are those... nail scissors? in the second picture, on the fender?
yep, had to cut from roof and floor sound and heat insulation, so i used them cuz forgot knife at home. lol
wish to make something like this
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/g/gaz/volga/gaz_21_volga_prototip_1.jpg
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/gaz/volga/autowp.ru_gaz_21__volga__prototip_3.jpg
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/gaz/volga/autowp.ru_gaz_21__volga__prototip_4.jpg
Nice car man congrats on your buy
I think this styling would be perfect. pretty cool car man
Thanks mates
I know those cars, pink car isn't pained, it's primed only. Black one have air suspension at front. Old pics, now he working at rear axle.
One does not simply to lower leaf springs suspension
boromir.jpg
lol
or just reset them or flip them or get blocks or bag it
I know how to do it, 8-10 cm ground clearance would look nice.
are there any pics of what the suspension ssetup on the pink one was before the ssetup that it has in these pics? because it was low enough already then, i have always loved it
That was before
wow thats awesome
yeah i know, just wanted to know how he achieved his first stage of low, before the frame cutting and inverting leafs
I guess he used classic way - spacers between axle and leaf
great, thats good, thanks
Yay, got Bugattis for daily driver, 370$
Need refurbishing
Хороший человек колес, но это нуждается в некоторой работе на нем
keep outside as it is, then some chrome wheels on it, lower it till you can barely put your thumb between the ground and the car, and then a full sick interior. Basically, turn it into a ratrod.
Hour of work, need angle grinder or drill to speed it up
bretty gud
That wheels look amazing bud
What's your daily?
Meanwhile in Siberia
Green paper x1000 = lada 1200s . 70k km on odometer.
oh, nice
will it be lowered later or it's going to be a daily driver?
70k? wow, that's nice number
Time to show what i'm doing instead of pixel cars
First day at car, removing front body panels: fenders and grill
One does not simply to remove 50 years old rusted bolts and nuts, so had to cut them off with grinder
At the end of first day. Gasser-look
Second day starts
Workspace
That was a nice weekend. Next step is front suspension rebuild.
V8 please
looking very good, apart from the rust ofcourse.
This is hella rad
lol ur right tire is completly gone and the other one looks ok
nice job bud
great!
well I wish you not to get frustrated with all the rust, work and money required, because this will be hell of a cool car when finished
Another weekend spent at car. Today focus was at front suspension
Very bad condition, backslashes?? (dunno how at english) everywhere, suspension plays like drunk russian
Front brakes, not self-adjustable, decided to replace brake cylinders to Gaz-24 one's (self-adjustable). Still be worst car brakes ever made.
First layer of primer was made at evening
Tomorrow front suspension will be fully painted. Ordered some bushings, hope finish front suspension built next weekend.
@Kuba
Calculated total cost of restoration. I expect it around 5000$ or a bit more, of course if i do most of work myself, except paintjob, but who knows, i could try it too.
Total (3/11/13)
Money spent: 560$
Work spent: 79 man-hours
painted
Total (4/11/13)
Money spent: 560$
Work spent: 91 man-hours
That's a lot of time!
Sick stuff!
is it going to be standard height or
scraping
I've never heard of this car but it looks classy I like that you're restoring this!
Thank guys!
Front suspension is almost done, still need to finish tie rods and stabilizer
Rear axle before
Now it's finished, except brake lines
Working on old cars like that is really theraputic!
dat tym
dat ddicatun
but seriously that's hella a lot of time, but definately looking better!
Plans are for a full resto? or are there going to be some mods (you mentioned different brakes?)
Thanks dudes
I'll try to keep it authentic as possible
Tie rods workspace
Fuel tank removing
Seems like it was under ground all 60 years
Body condition
@rust
i dont know where you are, and what you want, but i will find you and i will kill you, bitch
Extra doors at rear panel
Trunk
Spare wheel..
Who the hell decided to place intake and exhaust manifolds side by side?
If you decided to restore classic car in Russia, you gonna have a bad time. Anyways this weekend i'll look for another 21 Volga to get extra spare parts from it and later put in V8 ZMZ big block.
o, novv dat 5ound5 like an even nicer plan already! good vvork 5o far dude, good vvork
damn all that car cancer, but it's looking good
wow, seeing all the rust I should consider myself lucky and stop bitching about my car being rusty
nice to see updates dude
so are you V8 swapping it? And how are you going to repair the rust, like are you getting authentic replacement segments or are you sheet metal rewelding?
Authentic replacement segments is too expensive for me, and there is one problem - they dont fit because of low quality soviet press forming and each car was individual lol. There is not much part that can be replaced without customization.
V8 will be on another car (3rd series), which i hope to get at this sunday. My 2nd series "Shark" is rare (not much as first "Star") than 3rd series "Whalebone", thats why i dont want to make any mods on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ-21
Ahhh fair enough
You guys have some awesome cars over there. I always wanted a Lada.
PS Good luck with the rust
Was too cold to work on the body, so i decided spent free time to the interior.
My first interior expirience. Firstly, seats was stripped off
Then painted
Here you can see rear seat layout
Seat frames covered by felt/numdah (dunno how is more correct)
Next step is gluing layers
Last moment - all seat is covered by sintepone to make seat smooth before put covers in (poor pic, at other side it covered too)
So we get:
- frame
- felt
- 40 mm porolon
- sintepon
- ????
- PROFIT!
Covers made by seamstress. I'll make pics tomorrow. Paid for work and materials approx. 200$. That's nice price imo. Actually seats is done, but still need to finish front seats back.
Easy as 2+2. Now take your lazy ass off the computer and go to make some sweet bucket seats for your car.
I want that car but it's expensive anyway nice job man I like it!Votka will give you strenght for work
Thanks dude. But actually it one of the cheapest classic to built. Except Moskvitches and Ladas.
Bought 1968 spare parts catalogue for 14$, A4 format. It's for 3rd series model, but also usable for 2nd.
27$ for taillights. Chrome is poor. Light glasses will be polished soon.
Rear emblem, nicknamed "Bird", also for 27$ (1000 rub). Pretty nice condition.
Side mirror, Got for 10$. It's from Moskvitch, but fits Volga too.
Interior watches. Found in storage.
Got two new chrome hubs for brother's Lada 2101
Antenna for my Volga
Seems like it's new
Stop light glass from Gaz M-20 Pobeda
It's placed at trunk
And "air-conditioner". Pretty rare stuff.
Production date: december 1969
Values:
Chrome hubcaps - 28$ each = 56$
Antenna - 70$-140$
Stop light glass - 10$
Air fan - 25$-50$
Bought all this stuff for 28$. Besides it seller gave me 2 lens headlights for classic cars and pair of yellow foglights. That was a nice deal.
It's always nice to see project update and you are actually Musa
Yesterday was the engine day. It's already cleaned btw.
Family garage. Octavia is awesome car.
After removing manifolds
Manifolds
Splitted
Head cover
Looks like tar/goudron. that what happens if you use russian oil
Filled kerosene, to find leaks through valves
Engine rebuild starts. To be continued.
Cool project you have there.
Te engines of such old cars are scary
Interior color scheme
Workspace.
Worked on bottom yesterday, there was no time to pics.
Today was cylinder head day. How it looks before:
Valves:
After some work:
Cylinder head is done. This 2brl carb I want to install instead of 1brl old one. K-126, made in USSR. With some mods I hope to get at least 85 bhp. Sounds like a joke, isn't it?
really nice project dood
holy f**k thats a lot of carbon
Increased compression ratio from 6.73 to 8.4 by cylinder head milling. Now it runs on 92/95 octane instead of 76. Also gains 20 hp, 75->95.
Meanwhile I bought workshop or garage, dunno how to explain what is it, because I living at flat and I need space to stare my car and tools. Garage situated at suburb, every day me and my brother spent our time there.
There is huge mess in garage. Roof and floor is completely damaged. Hope to finish reconstruction next month.
How it looks now:
How it feels:
Lot of bugs and spiders. This is how this place looks, there is many other garages situated here. I tried to find US/european examples of such buildings, but I didnt found.
Coming to home at night. Day after day.
yeah, garages like that are a soviet thing. good luck with cleaning it out!
also, thats some neeeaaat HP increase, cool stuff, cool stuff!
edit
2007 baby
We don't have those here in the US
only certain states have those but its not a big thing
but a lot of people rent RV size storage garages and work on cars in those
that's what I plan to do soon lol
Back to my car. 2 weeaks ago, i asked one redneck to weld chassis, cuz have no skill to do it myself. But maybe i'll remake some places in future.
Rolled chassis. Looks safe, isn't it?
There is no much rust, nice condition for car that runned over 50 years on salt roads without any repair.
And something is already fixed. Not high quality work. Stiil in progress
Just look at lead! Body metal thickness is 1.5 mm. Lead is like 3 or 5 mm at some places. Factory armored lmao
I hope finish bodywork next month. Ignore background. Garage isn't finished yet.
Welding almsot done
gasser style yo
Hope it will be lower after assembling
It's cool like this. Tho, a little bit lower would be great.
wow, so much progress lol
nice uaz you got there! cool stuff, cool stuff
arranged with a friend to buy his car for 200 euro
pics by potato
if paper be okay and body not rusted too much, then v8 swap might be
that would make a sick lowrider or somthing
Still waiting for the warm weather
Now busy with bros Lada
As I said I bought garage last year, but forgot to show you reconstruction process.
How it looks at first.
Tons of garbage and useless stuff, damaged roof. Wooden floor which provides high humidity in garage. We decided to make new roof and concrete floor. First step - garage cleaning.
Now we have space to store at least tools and materials.
End of part 1 (of 3)
Next step is slate roof removal.
Lifted front wall by few bricks, then bought some wood and primary bars was made.
Secondary bars
New roof cover
btw that dude in black pants with racing stripes is me
End of part 2
Roof is done! After it, we removed the rest of old roof from inside (it allowed us to work on new roof).
Tar paper
Now it's floor turn. At first reinforcement grid was made
Annnnnd it's done! (really was busy making floor, had no time to make pics)
Budget. 1 usd = 30 rubles (year before, now its 60 ;_; )
Garage - 60 000 rub = 2 000 usd
Wood - 7 000 rub = 250 usd
Slate - 3 000 rub = 100 usd
Reinforcement grid - 1 500 rub = 50 usd
Concrete - 4 500 rub = 150 usd
Work - zerocredits = free
Extras - approx 5 000 rub = 160 usd
Total: 81 000 rub or 2710 americano dollars
the end.
sorry for pics quality, filmed on hammer by potato
whoah thats amazing man
now you can work pretyt good
you should come over here and build me a garage. I'll supply lots of booze
Thanks guys,
will work for food
That's indeed one badass improvement.
Next work was made last year.
This is bottom edge of the left fender
As you can see it's rusted a liitle bit.
Cleaned up with grinder:
Cutt off
Replacement part
Aaaaaaaaand it's done!
At first i thought it's impossible to repair this fender. That was my first welding and fabrication experience.
Conclusions:
1. Next time use 1.00 mm sheet metal or less (I had only 1.2 mm)
2. Never make direct impacts, put some absorbing material (like wood or rubber) between tool and metal.
3. Too poor to afford english wheel.
Total:
Work - zero credits = 0 usd.
And sorry for garbage on the background - thats not my yard.
Pics was filmed by welding machine.
the amount of rust on this car you've fixed makes the rust on my car look like a joke
looks pretty good for a first try, dont worry if you dont see your welding improve, it takes some time. (for me it does atleast lol)
Welding is fun but a health hazard, i do it as little as posible..
I learned by welding random s**t together at my job lol..
Workshop looks nice myca! It looks like alot of work..
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